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Chris Floyd's avatar

A massively influential early 80s game that I thought could have bore some consideration—and could have been the permadeath roguelike on your list!—is Oregon Trail (the first graphical version, the one that gets dysentery-memed, etc). It is and will forever be the greatest of educational games, a touchstone for survival games, and as I say, the version of Rogue that everyone actually played.

I’ll spare you my rhapsody on ZORK.

Nice work, gentlemen!

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Thomas Flott's avatar

I just wanted to say that I think Chris and Russ (and Justin to a lesser extent, on occasion) are really doing themselves a disservice by couching these discussions in a super anti-intellectual "blegh, smart things are boring, games are just fun and silly" setting - I think you guys have genuinely smart and insightful things to say about games, that are interesting and add immensely to the cultural conversation. Calling this list something for "snobby assholes at a party" lessens both yourselves (after doing a significant amount of intellectual labor!) AND your listeners! We're smart! You're smart! Those things aren't incompatible with liking games, and I really wish you'd stop saying as much.

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